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Dave's Camelhairbrush Ver. 5 by Brollonks Dave's Camelhairbrush Ver. 5 by Brollonks
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Hello there,

I am not going to write a long text:

Just today I finished my brandnew own brush (the 5th version) - The Camelhair Brush, similar to Painter's, for Photoshop.
I think this is getting even closer to the brushstroke of the Camelhair Brush in Corel Painter 12.

I had no time to produce a good cover for this brush - yes, there is only one brush in this download.
When you look at my preview-image, you will see strokes which are done only by one brush without changing the brush size (which is 15px)

I compared my strokes in Photoshop in every step to those I drew in Painter 12. It's the best result I was able to get so far. I hope you like it. Be sure to try it out, the preview is just a small example.

Be sure to read the text-file in the unzipped folder before sharing this brush with others.

- David

PS: It won't work for PS Elements users.
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ScratchoXForce Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2015
Never mind
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ScratchoXForce Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2015
How do I download it?
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Masked-Skull Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2015  Student General Artist
Thank u for sharing ^^
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Windy-City Featured By Owner May 12, 2013
this is a beautiful brush <3
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metta117 Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Can you make one for PS elements
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Eric-A-Allen Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2011
Cool brush. Thanks 4 creating and sharing it.
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Loona-Cry Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
If there's a double comment blame deviantart's glitches as of late. :P
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Loona-Cry Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Alright, here it is, the stroke test: [link] . The info is in the summary. If you need to know anything else just ask. :)
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Loona-Cry Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Alright, here's the strokes for you to take a look at. Kindly excuse my noobish wonkiness. :) Found here: [link] . All of the info is in the summary. If you need to know anything else just ask. :)
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Loona-Cry Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Alright, I can finally comment on these properly. ^^ The little faults I found was the 'trails' that seem to appear at the end of the strokes that make a mess (when lifting the pen) and these weird little line things that somehow end up perpendicular to the stroke itself. I'm pretty sure that it never happened in the older versions, but it's really annoying to go back and clean the trails off. Apart from that I love the fluidity of the brush (if not the small slow down compared to the defaults, but that's my computer's fault). If you can find out what's causing the trails and fix it I really wouldn't be able to find fault with it. :)
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Brollonks Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
I don't see anything you mention when I draw, which Photoshop version do you use? And which tablet (an important thing to get good results) do you have?

Try to set your pen to a harder pressure mode, that's really important for drawing with this brushes.
Your tablet also should recognize pen tilting. The Wacom Intuos3 is really good in that case.

However, this brush is very sensitive for pressure, if you don't raise the pen carefully, it might cause a thin line at the end of the stroke (just like a real brush it will drip a bit, if you just swipe the tablet-area (that happened to me a couple of times too :D). This brush really feels nearly 1:1 to Painter's brush. It's a closer feel than in my previous versions.

If you have a pen with only 500 pressure-steps (Wacom Intuos3 has 1020), then it might look messed up sometimes.
When I draw with this brush, I lift the pen (because I have enough experiences) very fast and get a clean outline. If I don't want the outline to end thin, I have to lift the pen suddenly (very fast). This little trails could appear if you don't set your pen to a harder pressure-mode. With a Wacom Intuos3 you will get very good results.
Of course it also needs practice (because I created the brush from version to version, I got enough practice to draw with it) to get the best out of it.

As one of my favourite artists said - the Painter Camelhairbrush is a matter of taste, some people hate it and won't get good results. Others won't use another brush after drawing with this.
This Photoshop-Version of the Camelhairbrush feels the same with those Wacom-Settings as Painter's Camelhairbrush and I think with PS CS4 it will look better than in lower Photoshop-Versions. As far as I know, the CS4 version has a new antialiasing engine for brushes, it might be that.

I have some litte slow down's too, even this will give you a similar feel to Painter.:D

You shouldn't increase the brush size bigger than 20 Px.

But well... could you show me a screenshot how the brushstrokes looks in your Photoshop?
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Loona-Cry Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I use CS5. It's a Cintiq 12", so it's probably not the tablet. :) (I thank my kind relatives for the gifts.)

Yep, the pressure set to be more resistant and the tilt works (too) perfectly.

That's exactly the problem. xD The other thing (which I have no idea how it's happening) which is the major problem is the little lines appearing perpendicular to the stroke. Not a wobble, but an actual tiny line.

I might need a harder pressure mode still then. Hmmm, well, so long as it doesn't scratch my screen. *shrug*
Too true, the end trails will probably stop appearing with practice if it's that sensitive. :)

I like the brush, it's far far smoother than any of the defaults for crispness.
It might be new stuff in CS5 then that's screwing some of the settings up. It'd certainly explain the perpendicular trails which are a lot harder to remove without mangling the line.

Alas, we who need more RAM and uber computers for PS. xD

Hmm, ok, I'll keep that in mind. It's gonna be a pain with the 10 000 + resolution pictures though, but I'll attempt to endure. (It still looks fairly good even at the larger sizes. :))

Yes I can. I'll put it up for you to have a look within the next day or so (maybe earlier).
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Brollonks Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
Another thing could be a W-Lan signal near the tablet/Cintiq, causing those weird lines. But as far as I know, a W-Lan Router near the tablet causes wobbly cursors. I had a removal last week and just today I got everything installed here. My internet-pc is now near the working pc and has internet via W-Lan. But I didn't notice a wobbly cursor yet (the only thing is, that my hand needs to be warmed up after a break from digital drawing due to the removal).
As for the driver for your Wacom - which one do you use? There are also several driver issues when using Windows 7 and the newest Intuos/Cintiq. Oh well, if companies just would fix every bug in their software/hardware before releasing a brand new product with new (and old) bugs...
This is why I am still using Windows XP with Intuos3 and PS CS4. I won't buy a new product until every bug is fixed... I just don't want to upgrade my software/hardware every one and a half year and having problems to get it work properly. Even Corel wasn't able to fix Painter's issues after 11 further versions...:roll:
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Loona-Cry Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Wow, that I didn't know. I used to have a router nearby but I moved it about 2 or 3 rooms (for laptops) away and fished out my LAN cable. Well, good luck getting back into your groove. :) I haven't had any problems like that so far. The only time my cursor wobbles is when I use my poor, severely absused mouse.
I use 6.1.6-7 according to the install exe. I know, it's bloody annoying. If I ran a company I wouldn't be leaving in bugs that could potentially screw up the development of future products. *head shake* Cheap skates. I only got a Cintiq due to my shakey hands. They've been even worse since I came off my medication and it helps to be able to see directly what I'm working with. If you want an idea of how bad, I can't really handle glassware anymore for fear of shattering it.
I know exactly what you mean and agree completely. I only got Windows 7 because I was unable to run some programs without 64 bit and CS5 was gotten simply for the rather helpful content aware fill. I rarely upgrade to be honest; I buy my compenents to last a few years before switching out to keep the costs down. (I'm not rich like my relatives.) It's the same with most of these companies lately, especially with Apple products. It's like they're stringing the customer along with promises of fixes in each installment, that unsuprisingly, never appear. If I buy something I at least want decent quality and support. I can't run any program related to Corel on my computer without it crashing sporadic and quite frankly I couldn't deal with it anymore; hence me using your brushes. :)

Out of curiousity; only being relatively new to Painter, what were the issues that they never fixed?
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Brollonks Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
They never fixed several crashes when brush-panels are opened. Or that Painter just won't open anymore without any reason, or corrupted files after saving/opening.
I never used Painter that often, as I had those issues when I tried Painter 9 or 11. I just read reports of other artist's that Painter is quite unstable and working with it can be a real horror.

As for your shaky hands - that doesn't sound good. How long do you have this medication? I hope it's going to be okay. What is causing the medication, if I may ask?

I would become mad with shaky hands, but it's also possible to train getting rid of it. Fixing the ellbow on the working area and only drawing by moving the whole underarm. It helps a lot. Or painting, painting is also a good way to train your hand, as you have to move your hand quickly for short well placed strokes.
There are also gloves which are protecting the wrist. Years before I drew too much using my wrist, there is just too much movement in it. So I got wobbly lines and sometimes I wasn't able to get my hand holding still because I overstrained it.

Oh need to thank me, I now even have more time to look into dA as my internet pc is nearer to me. In past I had to go into the cellar and my working pc was in my room (under the roof).Because of that I often didn't feel like going online, scanning a drawing, etc. (Or in summer, working in my room heating up due to the sun). Now it's perfect for me. :)
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Loona-Cry Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I can second their experiences; it suffers from seemingly random crashes that make any kind of extended project impossible. I practically kissed PS upon returning.

I'm a chronic migraine sufferer and was on a medication called Epilim (usually prescribed to epileptics to control seizures) that acts as a migraine supressant. You take it for a few months until the symptons are somewhat contained then gradually wean yourself off. I used it help control some of the distortions in my vision caused by my migraines. Unfortunately it couldn't supress that noise like distortion that's effectively rendered me mostly blind. After I came off the medication the shaking came as a withdrawal symptom that's since eased a bit, but is still present with a hard enough grip (pens, mugs and most annoyingly a phone that slowly wobbles away from you as your talking to someone, etc.). It's one of the rare symptons as a result of trying to treat an equally rare condition, as apparently they still can't give me a true diagnosis. They know it's migraine related and that's about it. When I was younger my vision decreased by 4% in a 6 month period and for some strange reason the only person who saw something remotely off about was the kid in question, i.e me. I was 16 when I finally convinced my parents to investigate as I doubted my vision would be up to driving (which it still isn't).

Thanks for the advice. I'll try and beat the habits into myself. :) I'll have to move to a bigger desk at some stage too with more room to work on in comfort. I've always enjoyed painting, maybe I should get around to dedicating some time to it again... My traditional painting is far better than my PS painting at any rate. xD I just find the physical mixing of paints to be easier and more therapeutic. I had a fairly neat painting I did of the Majora's Mask from The Legend of Zelda in Year 8. I did the base in greyscale acrylics and improvised with watered down acylics to give it a coloured overlay. I was the only person who didn't charge straight for the colour paints and finished early. Unfortunately my teacher stole it and I never saw it again. :( That kinda put me off painting.
Gloves, hmm, I think I'll check those out. I sometimes wear gloves anyway due to my hand sticking to the screen, but I'll have to take a look at the type you're talking about. ^^

It's amazing what convenience can do. :) I use to refrain from drawing because of the effort it'd take to get paper and pencils sorted out and so on. Since I got a tablet it's much easier to do at my leisure and now I'm doing it more frequently. ^^
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Loona-Cry Featured By Owner Jun 27, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Updates! *fangirl squee*
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Dystatic-Studio Featured By Owner Jun 27, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
Well, looks much less jerking aliasing than the normal brush with pressure settings. I may try it out.
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Brollonks Featured By Owner Jun 27, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
Of course, I already like this brush very much. I won't draw with any other brush anymore. :D

Greetings,

- David
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